Spectral getting energy drained by bone

[Conky]

This post from last year was pretty much the same thing

Is spectral drake immune to bone dragon energy drain?

Thanks for pointing this my way. I'll get one of the guys to look into it then let you know the answer.

[Sp1tfire]

Legend says that guy is still looking

[Serenity_II]

Did that. Happens again and again.

[Phil_Da_Agony]

I was looking for a thread on this and couldn't find one so I made this one. Hopefully they'll come around to fix this bug

[Conky]

I'm glad you made it. Hopefully it will get some traction

[Phil_Da_Agony]

The video evidence should be enough to get them to try and move forward fixing the bug

[Namel]

Ninja and Medusa drains Spectral energy too (on attacks that "resisted").

[Sp1tfire]

Those are different though, cause their skills don't have a damage requirement, while bone's purple explicitly mentions that her abilities need to do damage in order to drain energy.

[Faram]

Something I noticed only due to the large difference in my 2 accounts. The drain doesn't seem to happen until the Bone Dragon is equipped with the higher levels of cyan gear. On my now level 129 account I had no problem running through expedition facing cyan 1. Cyan 2 was a little more difficult but still manageable. Facing cyan 3 and 4 with a team that isn't cyan equipped is just not a good idea. The energy drain and initial damage just seems to totally drain both hit points and energy before the team can enter the playing field. Yes DH has his legendary. It still just eats up my little guys.
This may have a bearing on the test for the energy drain effect. The base stats may read true with no problems being detected. If the test isn't run with a wide range of variables then no problems will be found and nothing will be done to correct it. This could be because nothing was found.
This also brings us back around to another subject,expeditions and fixing the matching algorithm. To be continued at this post. http://discourse.dragonsoulgame.com/t/crap-expedition/17607/9

[Skitty]

GS have brought this thread to dev attention and received confirmation it's being investigated.

[o_belliam_wan]

First of all everyone needs to stop complaining this is not a bug just problem in your perception. Why do you assume that bone energy drain is associated with the damage he does? It doesn't... the amount of damage does not change the amount of energy drained. Therefore when bone attacks he does 2 things damage and energy drain they are separate. If bone misses then he does neither if he hits he does both. Therefore a low level bone is not draining spec because he misses the attack. No where in spec description does it say immune to energy drain therefore if bone attacks and it says resisted he stopped the basic damage not the energy drain.

[Conky]

I think you should read Bone Dragon's purple skill description again.

"Each time one of her abilities does damage to an enemy, that enemy also loses X energy"

[o_belliam_wan]

So what you're saying is that the skill description should say hit not damage. Still not a bug

[Conky]

So what you got from that was that I suggested the skill description change to:

"Each time one of her abilities does hit to an enemy, that enemy also loses X energy"

?

[Conky]

Honestly I don't know where your confusion is coming from, but I'll try to help with another example.

If you've ever used Dark Horse against Bone Dragon, you'll notice that once Horse's shield is up and Bone stops doing damage to your heroes, it also stops draining their energy, because as his skill description very clearly states, No Damage Done = No Energy drained. Think of it like this:

If Damage == 0, No Drain (whether the damage was prevented by dodging, shields, or immunity)
If Damage > 0, Full Drain (based on expertise and purple skill level)

[o_belliam_wan]

No DH is completely based upon his expertise compared to bone dragons and his orange skill

[Conky]

Wrong, Bone Dragon's energy drain is NOT classified as a disable.

[Conky]

I'll try again. Do you have any Cyan+4 heroes with a primary stat of Agility? Some agility heroes have very high Dodge with fully equipped and enchanted gear. Centaur, Mogul, Burned One, Stepladder Bros are some examples. March one or more of these heroes into battle along side other low-dodge heroes, with full energy bars, and tell me which heroes are drained faster? The dodgey ones take longer to drain or in some cases aren't fully drained by the end of the first few seconds (Bone's orange skill). Because if they dodge a tick of his skill, they aren't drained at all.

[o_belliam_wan]

You are partly correct on the shields as late in the fight when bone is completely basic attack he cannot damage the shield which negates the energy drain only on spec while he is shielded. Saying it immediately changes the bone energy drain at the beginning is wrong because bone is doing magic damage and therefore damaging the shields which drains energy. This would be whining about the coding of the shields and how they effect things not on bones basic attack draining spec. Fact is unless bone misses (keyword) on basic attack and spec doesn't have shield then bone will drain energy. This is consistent with other drain heroes like ninja, therefore it's not based on bone dragon. So would you like the shields changed so that it works like if he didn't have shield?

[Conky]

Let me attempt to address the erroneous statements in your reply.

1. Very few heroes are "completely basic attack", which I would perhaps take to mean that all of their non-White skills are passive, resulting in a cycle of only basic attacks interrupted by special skill. Bone is not one of them: she has 2 skills, Tar Pit and Restore, so she cycles through basic attacks and these two skills during a battle.

2. You seem to think Horse's shield only prevents basic attacks or damage. This is incorrect - it stops all damage, regardless of type (unless the attacker has a shield-breaking ability, such as Elf or Spikey)

3. Bone Dragon's basic attack is not considered an "ability" and as such, it doesn't drain energy anyway.

4. Damaging Horse's shield does not drain energy because it doesn't do damage... again, no damage, no drain.

5. I didn't say Horse's shield changes the bone energy drain at the beginning: on the contrary, Bone's drain starts at 0 seconds, while horse's shield can take a few seconds to go up depending on your horse's movement speed and a bunch of other factors. You'll notice the drain continues until the first tick hits the shield. Try it out in Expedition and Guild War.

6. I'm not "whining", and as far as your earlier post accusing me and others of "complaining" is concerned, that's not really the case - we're simply pointing out a bug.